“The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists” – CHURCHILL NEVER SAID THIS.

Old write-up from 2009. Still rough around the edges, but you get the point.

Decided to post this up again seen as though the subject of the Churchill “quote” keeps coming up (mainly from gobshites on Twitter). 


Have you ever noticed how much those on the (far-)right like to reference Winston Churchill when attempting to justify their existence? “The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists” gets thrown around a hell of a lot, and is supposed to be one of the ex-Tory MP’s most famous quotes.

Dig a little bit deeper, though (the Internet’s right there) and you’ll find no record of Churchill ever saying this.

On the face of it, if you were to type the “quote” into Google, you’ll be presented with a number of flat discussions on Yahoo Questions and various (forgotten) message boards; as well as one self-confessed Islamophobic blogger using Churchill’s “words” as a non-credible source to back up his petty arguments.

Churchill as the originator of the phrase certainly seems to be more mythical than factual. The main source for Churchill on the web, winstonchurchill.org, has no record of him ever saying it; and the Winston Churchill Society is unable to provide any evidence, either (you can contact them via email).

So where did this “quote” come from? The One Million United website suggests it was adapted from 40th Louisana Governor Huey Long’s words, “Sure we’ll have fascism here, but it will come as an anti-fascism movement.” The “quote” also seems to mirror Italian author Ignazio Silone’s words, when he said, “The final conflict will be between the Communists and the ex-Communists,” (Max Lerner, “The Hero as Ex-Communist,” pt. 4, The Unfinished Country (1959).

The far-right’s tendency of having to twist the facts/lie through its teeth to get the attention it so desperately craves should come as no surprise in its desperate recruitment attempts (even Churchill’s own grandson has hit out at the BNP/EDL/UKIP-types for their methods of using false information as “appalling”).

Now, let us be clear: I am by no means a fan of Churchill (he was an imperialist/racist/long-term advocate of chemical warfare). But time and time again the right-wing trolls (as well as a lot of Liberals I’ve had the displeasure of speaking to) will point to Churchill, and indeed this “quote”, as if they were a credible source.

But this is nothing more than a mishmash of words, exploiting the myth of Churchill’s “greatness”; whilst attempting to tarnish the reputation/hard work of genuine anti-fascists.

For the record, this is a real Churchill quote: “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes…[It] would spread a lively terror.”

and this:

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22 thoughts on ““The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists” – CHURCHILL NEVER SAID THIS.

  1. Oh, and the Indian religion, involving burning widows, had just been made illegal when Churchill was born, and was being actively suppressed during his lifetime. It seems reasonable to call that, and the people who indulge in it, ‘beastly’

      1. It’s not unreasonable to say that parts of a religion are “beastly”. Unless you’d like to argue that the teachings of Jesus pertaining to love are made irrelevant by the backwards traditions found in Leviticus?

    1. If it is irrelevant, why ascribe it to Churchill? If a fact, why present it in a lie? Here’s the thing: it seems people can’t tell the difference between extremists based on their actions and label them all fascists. There is already a word for what they are: totalitarians.

  2. You easily sum up the reasons why your self described “Far-Right” opponents attribute the quote to Churchill to “justify their existence/having to twist the facts/lie through its teeth to get the attention it so desperately craves”. It is suggested that the quote be attributed to Huey Long, a 40’s era hard left democrat politician. You fail to point out that this quote is currently ringing true across many venues, particularly college campuses. And you also fail to mention that it is being done so by the current hard left democrats, currently known liberals.

    1. “You fail to point out that this quote is currently ringing true across many venues, particularly college campuses.” Yeah, cause I can overhear all of that, can’t I? Am I God?

      And since when were “Liberals” hard left? Muppet.

      1. The term “Liberal” was hi-jacked from the true Classic Liberals. Would liberals as leftist meet with your satisfaction?

  3. That quote is simply a derivative of everything you learned on the playground. You are smaller, fatter or slower than someone else and you get to know unfairness. You are then motivated to make friends with others bigger, thinner, faster and then you become the one who makes someone else smaller, fatter, or slower learn unfairness. Its just part of the scheme of things. When you get older you push it all into the background more or less but its really the same dynamics motivating most people. The goal is to find your peace in the midst of it and if you are lucky and a bit charitable you get a chance to feel accomplishment in case god’s keeping score. .

  4. Churchill was a racist? We’ll just ignore the fact that Churchill signed the United Nations Convention on the rights of refugees into British law in 1954…. You can take your own advice and “look it up on google”

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